Hiya Rob, thanks for joining us in the virtual RGM lounge today. Grab a brew and take a seat.
What made you decide that music is a thing for you?
For me, it was an escape. I didn’t have many friends when I was younger. It was an outlet, something to fill the silence. I played piano as soon as I got home, I’d close my eyes and pretend I was playing to Wembley Stadium. It’s always been there for me, it’s always been a constant in my life.
What’s the live music scene like in London right now? Anyone we should be looking out for (bar you, of course)?
There are a lot of bands doing some awesome stuff in the indie/alt-rock space. I feel like bands are on their way back into the mainstream. I’m a big fan of what Ain’t and The Youth Play are doing. It’s bands like that that I feel are pushing rock music towards something new.
I’ve seen a lot of people struggling for support recently online. What’s your view on the industry?
I feel like audiences are coming around to what feels authentic, and sometimes it feels like the industry hasn’t caught up in a way. There are some great communities of musicians in London, and we all support each other. Places like the North Nineteen open mic in Archway are super supportive environments. Places like that, I feel, really nurture talent—I’ve seen some great artists there.
Where do you feel you currently sit within the music industry?
We’re on our way up for sure. We’re at the stage where there is a great community of other artists our size, we all support and root for each other.
Do you ever worry about people taking things the wrong way or cancel culture?
The music we make is super personal to us. It’s our experiences. We don’t make music to be controversial—it’s a way to express different parts of our lives in MP3 files.
What was your best experience on stage?
Every time we play, it’s the best feeling ever—getting to show what we’ve worked so hard on and express ourselves while feeling the same energy coming off the audience. We did play this one gig where no one was feeling us, but by the third song, you could see they got it and were feeling it. It’s just a great feeling when you get people onto your side.
What was your worst experience on stage?
Anytime anything breaks.
What are the next steps you plan to take as a band to reach the next level?
We’re putting out You Are What You Own—it’s the first song that really feels like us and shows what we’re all about and how our sound is evolving. We have one or two other singles we want to put out this year, and we’re hoping to play festivals this summer. Before then, we have a few shows lined up in London, playing with some great bands and artists.
I hear you have new music. What can you tell us about it?
I knew I wanted to do almost the opposite in terms of our first track Music For The Kids. I wanted it to feel almost like a one-to-one conversation and also explore the grey area between friendship and love. We’ve all felt this way at one point. It’s kind of an ugly feeling, but I have honestly felt like that before, and the honesty of it all is my favourite thing about the track.
What was the recording process like?
It was difficult and time-consuming, to be honest. I’m a bit of a perfectionist, so I got the song mixed twice and kept adding and changing parts. But I knew it would be worth doing a track like this properly.
What was the biggest learning curve in writing the new tunes?
I always like to write the same song two or three times—that way, it keeps getting better. Every time I think I’ve written my favourite song ever, another song comes along, and I think, Actually, this is my favourite.
Would you change anything now it’s finished?
This is a hard question to answer because I never really feel like a song is finished. Every time I listen to it, I hear something that could change or be better. But other times, I listen and think, This is great.
Is there anything else you would like to share with the world?
We’ve got a gig at The Water Rats on the 19th of March, and we’re playing at The Fighting Cocks on the 27th of March. Follow us on Insta to keep up to date on all that. We’ve got a lot planned this year.
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