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RGM INTRODUCING – WE INTERVIEW LONDON DUO EX EN PROVENCE 

Hiya folks thanks for joining us in the virtual RGM lounge today, grab a brew and take a seat.

What made you decide that music is a thing for you?

Actually, I loved classical music when I was a kid, used to play Chopin in school assembly’s and get really into it emotionally, even though my young brain could not comprehend the depth! I always enjoyed the way music lyrics and songs can move and change you.

Introduce us to you and your musical history?

We are Two, Jan and Samuel, we’d been writing and experimenting together since meeting on tour with other old bands (LA Shark and I.R.O.K.) we first used to meet and set up a room full of synths and a microphone and just press record and see what came, this energy continued and we started writing for other artists and acts. During Covid, we decided to release records of our own, a combination of new ideas and salvaging scraps and ideas from previously unreleased works.

The music industry is the hardest industry in the world to progress in, How do you feel you are doing?

I think all you can do is enjoy the ride and hope something sticks and people can relate or  identify with some of your output. If you try to crack the code too hard or obsess about making a living from music alone in London you may begin to get frustrated, you have to be somewhere you can be happy and a nonstop creative when you sit down to write for me this means a fairly balanced and active life full of many joys, not just playing in a band.

We set up RGM USA and many other countries in the world to share music with America and the UK, good idea?

Yes we love it. If it can help bands break through on the other side of the pond, we’ve done bits and bobs writing in LA but would love the exposure to actually tour in the USA soon!

Do you sign up to any conspiracy theories? 

Not Really, but recently someone was telling me that the Queen wasn’t actually present when millions queued to view the casket and it got me wondering…



Let’s share the love, what bands are doing really well in your City?

I really like a band called Wooze who are old friends and South East London based, great live shows, also a band called 83TVs just starting out with friends from the Maccabees.

What advice would you give other artists starting out?

I think in this day and age it’s important to just keep the content flowing and to see what sticks, I spent many years sitting on hundreds of songs I planned to release and by the time you actually get to release sometimes the relevance or connection to the song isn’t the same and you just wanna put the new tunes out! Don’t hold on to your hits, get ‘em out and then you’ll have to make bigger ones.

Did you buy anything you don’t need during the pandemic?

I actually bought a guitar and a ukulele and I was quite good at practicing the guitar.

What was the worst experience on stage?

I did a backflip off the stage once in Leeds and landed back on the stage, this was a time when the finale in our show would be me dancing half naked in Roller skates and I didn’t realize my head was bleeding till I was dancing around in skates. After the show someone offered me a frozen bottle they found in the fridge freezer to use as ice, it turns out the previous band from the show the day before had frozen a bottle of P*** as a practical joke and I was holding it on my head not REALISING. (laughs)

Tell us something about each member that you think people would be surprised about.

Many people don’t know I’m one 8th Chinese. Jan used to be on a cheerleader team (laughs)

If you had to describe your band/music to an alien how would you describe it?

Lyrical, emotional, sonicly adventurous alternative pop

What makes you stand out as a band/artist?

I think having written across many genres together has made us quite diverse! Each song sort of lives and breathes in a world of its own.

I hear you have new music, what can you tell us about it.

It’s a song about Time, relationships, longing, Faith and commitment, but full of imagary and strongly influenced by a lot of classic 60s style progressive pop and psychedelic.

Talk me through the thought process of the new tune/s.

We were actually on a week-long writing holiday, writing in Northampton with a brilliant drummer and producer Adam Gammage, and the tunes were flowing fast. We were playing live, improvising as a 4 piece with the organist Greg Coulson and stumbled into the descending chorus chord sequence, we more or less built the song around this and the lyric ‘how long can we hang’ felt like a good philosophical line to build upon as it works on a personal level, but also in terms of a relationship.

What was the recording process like?

We all worked together building around the template we had made during the live session. We also wrote a backing vocals/choir part on a midi keyboard, which we turned into a score and Jan had it sung and recorded by a German children’s choir (Berliner Knabenchor).

What was the biggest learning curve in writing the new tunes?

I think there’s always something to be learned from the experience, as a lyricist I think I’ve learnt to become clearer with my message over the years, but sometimes it’s good to leave things open-ended and open to interpretation.

Would you change anything now it’s finished?

I think we have already made all the changes we wanted to! 

Is there anything else you would like to share with the world?

The Video is also something we are excited about, made by feeding the lyrics into an AI animation machine from a guy called PX_Studio, it’s stunning!