Waiting With a Killer – Innovative New Documentary
A bus journey takes an unimaginable turn for two strangers when one tells the other that he killed a classmate when he was 11. Using actual footage from their journey and produced by 2 x award-winning filmmaker CK Goldiing, ‘Waiting With a Killer’ is a true life documentary that immerses you in moments of darkness like never before.
Here is our Q+A with the man himself.
What’s the vibe of San Diego like?
Hot… sunscreen factor 100 hot. I didn’t even know factor 100 was a thing until San Diego. Weather aside, San Diego people are warm, approachable and fully aware of their reputation for being chilled. One guy on the beach gave me a chip. I approve.
What attracted you initially to the subject Mathew?
Without wishing to sound like Mr Hippy, the universe attracted me to Mathew. Fact is, if I arrived at that bus stop ten minutes earlier or later, we would never have met and this documentary would not exist.
Mathew has some interesting 911 theories, where do you stand on them?
Honest answer? I don’t stand anywhere on 911. Speculation is rife – some theories are compelling, others are salacious, but ultimately, none are necessarily proven. I could sit here all day dissecting the merit of each argument, but what for? No, thank you. On the broader subject of governments and the citizens they govern, I don’t think any government’s primary objective is the wellbeing of its people. – I think the wellbeing of its people is secondary to accumulating and maintaining power in order to serve their own interests. I’m yet to hear a compelling argument disproving my theory that for the most part, the general public are seen as a bothersome irritation by politicians.
How many checks did you do to make sure Mathew’s story of events were true?
I once filmed a spontaneous conversation I had with a homeless gentleman. He told me that the hardest thing about being homeless are the belittling things people say. After we spoke, I didn’t check he was homeless. Similarly, after I spoke to Mathew, I didn’t check if he killed anyone.
Typing ‘Mathew San Diego School Killer’ into Google gets you nowhere.
Please note, at no point have I positioned myself as an investigative journalist or even necessarily a documentarian. Uncovering factual truths isn’t the objective of anything I produce, presenting unscripted human behaviour in a compelling format is. The two things are worlds apart.
Were the victim’s family contacted for comment?
Not only do I not know Mathew’s surname – which would certainly assist the research process – but most critical of all, I don’t know if there is an actual victim. Mathew says there is, though.
I have no reason to doubt him. Equally, I have no reason to believe him. His story is his story, and within that ocean of ambiguity, I’m not sure my role is to fact check a spontaneous encounter I had with a man on a bus.
It is, of course, my role to ask his permission to film and share his story. I did both.
Reflecting on his troublesome background and his story, how does that make you feel today?
On the broader subject of upbringing, I believe nature and conditioning contribute hugely to who we become as adults. That said, I don’t think these elements are the only factors that shape us. If everything Matthew revealed about his background is true, I would argue that in some cases, the behaviours he was subjected to might be acted out by Mathew himself if – and this is the key caveat – he was not exposed to more positive experiences to counter them.
The older I get, the more aware I am of how prone humans are to behavioural osmosis – as in, we tend to act and think in accordance with the prevailing actions and thoughts of our surroundings.
Do you think it’s possible that Matthew could be classed as vulnerable?
The term ‘vulnerable’ is vast in its application, so vast, in fact, that I don’t know if I’m suitably qualified to answer it. On the most basic level, however, if we apply the term ‘vulnerable’ to a man who gets his clothes from public bins – which is what he told me off-camera – then yes, Matthew is vulnerable to weather exposure, which isn’t to be underestimated.
From a mental health point of view, opinions are divided among everyone who has watched the documentary. Some people find his story credible and see no reason to doubt him, while others are not at all convinced.
What’s next up for you?
Taking a second to remind myself how rich I am, given the fact I have a roof, a comfortable bed, hot food and the most uneventful, abuse-free upbringing you could imagine. Rich, I tell you.
Did you kiss the girl at the end?
There were three girls at the end, I need specifics.
Thanks CK, we look forward to your future projects.